Obama: No Health Care For Illegal Immigrants
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"First of all, I'd like to create a situation where we're dealing with illegal immigration, so that we don't have illegal immigrants," he said. "And we've got legal residents or citizens who are eligible for the plan. And I want a comprehensive immigration plan that creates a pathway to achieve that."
"The one exception that I think has to be discussed is how are we treating children," he continued. "Partly because if you've got children who may be here illegally but are still in playgrounds or at schools, and potentially are passing on illnesses and communicable diseases, that aren't getting vaccinated, that I think is a situation where you may have to make an exception."
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See all 72 CommentsAmnesty first...then belly up to the table...like you've been doing. Shouldn't even skip a beat...
Just don't expect the wing nuts to
A: believe it
B: stop claiming that illegal immigrants will be covered
Remember, Obama promised if we did the stimulus, unemployment wouldnt go over 8%? we are at 9% and rising.
Remember when he said that the middle class wouldnt have their taxes raised? Well, now they are raising taxes.
Remember when he said he wouldnt tax health benefits (and skewered McCain for proposing it)? And now, his plan includes health benefit taxes.
So, you gonna believe him now?
Historically when something of value is discovered or available the poorest population who face abhorrent abuse, and lots of it. In most instances the outcome is that the poor exchange places with the rich.
The middle strata of the population composing of approximately 70% of the population remains primarily the same. A disruption of this population always results in revolution and as a nation these are the target population for social funding and social reform.
This is the way of humanity and it is a natural system and can be modeled.
Health care costs are affecting this population and reform is necessary and mandatory.
To the bickering selfish law makers, I say it is not to be careful what you ask for but to be careful of who you try to please.
I highly recommend you to view the feature film with young Henry Fonda, "The Grapes of Wrath" and learn about the cruelty of the Great Depression. The very last line in the film says it all.
When my creator judges me, he will never see that citizenship or legal status stopped me from loving his children, or my brothers, or sisters.
Deportation only proves our ability to exhibit futility and foolish wastefulness with our resources when we solve our problems with superficial criteria. Many are truly blind to the cost of deportation. It is the most inefficient expense in our justice system after carrying out a death penalty.
If you want to waste your tax dollars hunting for aliens to deport and illegal employers to prosecute, I have news for you - you can't afford the taxes needed to accomplish such an undertaking. Your ideology clearly sounds like you behave like a parrot repeating whatever you hear on talk radio, that makes you angry and entertains you. Try looking in the faces of those you condemn and then tell them with God in your heart, they don't deserve your compassion....you can't do it.
Purge your hypocritical ideas from your heart and choose to serve a master who will give you a brighter future.
I feel the typical illegal aliens are highly under credited and under respected for their exhibition of character to leave their families in search of work around the world to support them. That isn't common for our own citizens, who seem to feel they are so great and deserving.
Keep wasting your taxes making your stupid laws for the weakest people to break and building prisons to house them, or paying for expensive judicial process to enforce them. Soon, you will see how much your prejudice and lack of compassion really costs all of us.
Secon, we can shut down the border with Mexico (which is the problem right now) relatively cheaply. Finish building the fence from one end to the other, make sure it is well monitored with camreas, etc...and use Border Patrol to round up anyone that might breech it.
Once you shut the border down, then find the 11 million here and give them a choice. Return voluntarily to THEIR country and get on the list to enter legally, or be picked up and returned...with a lifetime ban of ever getting here legally.
Once the border is secure, the costs to maintain it will be miniscule compared with what we pay for illegals for health care, housing, etc.
Look, I dont blame them for trying to get here. They live in a crappy place and they want better for their families. I get that. But this isnt their country, it is ours. And our rules say that you come thru the front door, not thru the back. Your first act in my country is to break our laws, then I want you out of here. You have no respect for me, for my countrymen, nor my country. Thus, you should not become one of us.
Your ideas about Mexico and other countries are clearly influenced by those who know very little about them. Every time I go there and return, I am reminded of the defunct Soviet Union, who used to broadcast outrageous propaganda about the crumbling USA to every Soviet Citizen until the Cold War ended in 1989. The USA now does the same thing about Mexico and other countries and it sickens me to know that nothing is done to stop it.
You can waste all your time ranting and demanding taxes be expended in purging out people you don't desire in your neighborhoods or communities, but I can tell you that Mexicans don't exhibit anything like that towards us, or at least to me. Get an open mind and serve a more humane master.
Again, as with most of your posts on this subject...you just dont make sense.
As popular as it may seem to deny benefit to anyone here illegally, most hospitals know that depriving any person from medical treatment when a communicable disease or infectious influenza is involved, is extremely self-defeating and unwise. Sending a victim of an accident that was no fault of their own, who is not legally here, is also cruel and heartless. Refusing to see and prescribe a medication for a health condition to someone who is not legally here, is clearly cruel. Sending a diabetic away to die and refuse a prescription for insulin, is clearly not a good way to exhibit civilization. Sending a person with bronchitis away to advance into pneumonia and die or infect the population with a virulant form of pneumonia, is also cruel and self-defeating.
There are some who are perfectly ok with being cruel and depriving medical care to illegal aliens, but I am not one of them. I have had to personally pick up dead aliens off the ground in my uncle's ranch in South Texas and carry them to a public morgue for a pauper's burial. Many had no identification and didn't appear healthy. Looking in their dead faces and knowing they committed no serious crime to leave their families and exhibit the courage to find work to support them, showed me that they have uncredited charactar that many citizens in this country don't have.
I don't believe depriving health care to any illegal alien is in our best interests. I read about one illegal alien who gave blood and was found to have a mutated chromosome that resisted diabetes when his blood was analyzed. His blood was priceless. Millions around the world would have benefited if this person could have been found alive and provided scientific researchers with more information.
Our stupid prejudices easily become so popular and self-defeating. Medical treatment is act of compassion. There are countries with far less than we have, who exhibit greater compassion for their people or visitors who are suffering.
We are bound by international treaty to extend free health care to all legal visitors from other countries when they come to the USA and require medical care.
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That's flatly not true, not that I'm aware of anyway.
Every time I visit the States from Canada, I have to buy insurance to cover the length of my stay just in case something happens while I'm down there.
'Cause if it does, there's no way in hell I could ever pay what you guys charge for medical and surgical procedures
Medical treatment may be an act of compassion, but most countries couldn't care less,especially with non-citizens. The US is one of the few that will treat you regardless of your ability to pay or whether you are in the country illegally. All countries I have visited want to see a passport as ID. They also want cash for treatment or at least a credit card.
Yes, many countries, e.g. Mexico (Thailand is much better), have nice facilities and are happy to treat you, provided you have money. Please tell us if you can enter a Mexican hospital minus passport and dinero and expect anything at all.
I hate to burst people's balloons, especially those who always demonize the US, but it's a cruel world out there. Aside from maybe Cuba I doubt if you'll find a country that would really treat you for free. And in the case of Cuba, you'd better have your passport.
A local newspaper did an investigative article regarding healthcare provided to both illegals and visitors who overstayed their visas. An Egyptian doctor stayed in this country to have her baby in a local prominent hospital. She went back home to her country and do you know who paid the bill??? The taxpayers because she skipped out on it and her family was on assistance here because they were not legal but had an anchor baby. And that is only one example from the series.
We cannot take care of the world and say just come here illegally and you can have all the benefits without any of the hard work. Citizens/legal residents have to be taken care of first and if there is anything left, then charity follows. They chose to come here knowing they were breaking the law.
Any of you who support giving illegals free healthcare, housing, food, schooling, etc, maybe you would like to sponsor an illegal family and pay their way from your pocket. Get them off the public dole and out of my pocket. Maybe the President should have to take his aunt in and provide for her so the taxpayers don't.
In post WW-I Germany, inflation was so bad, that a wheel barrel full of cash could be carried to a grocery store and person could return to their home with a small bag of food. The rest is history when the NAZI party rose to fight crime and advance that country into economic prosperity with technology. Unfortunately, some chose to victimize a small minority segment which still leaves its smearing scar on history. Russia did the same thing during WW-I when Stalin announced his war on peasants and exterminated 16 million of his own people.
I am glad that California has an Austrian-born citizen for it's Governor, to remind citizens that financial problems should never be a motivating factor in launching an in-humane aggression against a class or race of people.
There are people with far less than we have, who are much happier. No alien has any responsibility for your high credit card debt, upside-down mortgage, or escalating health care costs. I would rather have an alien here working and give them amnesty and let them pay taxes, than support a looser US Citizen with no aspiration to become independant.
California and other states with revenue problems would benefit from an alien amnesty because taxes would be collected. The solution is so obvious. I am surprised so many oppose the idea.
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That is why an amnesty program will be required.
ON costs...
An illegal alien (pronounced "un-doc-u-men-ted") goes to the ER complaining of chest pains. Asked if pregnant, the illegal replies "I don't know". A pregnancy test is included in the battery of tests. After learning that she is pregnant, she leaves the ER w/ no further treatment.
This happens a lot in the south. They know how to get a "free" pregnancy test at the ER instead of spending $12 of their own money at the drugstore they spend $350 of someone elses' money at the ER.
You want to solve the health care "crisis", just charge $10 admission to the ER and give everyone a national ID card. No ID card, enter them into a national database that facilities can share.
Total costs to taxpayers, less than $1B.
Total savings to taxpayers, $300B per year.
There are not 12 million illegal aliens in this country as the Immigration Service Big Wigs suggest, but lets use that number anyway. The Census counts everyone.. all.. and there are 44 million Hispanics in the United States. 12 million illegal aliens subtracted from that. Half or more of the illegal aliens have two or more children (more wic's and local welfare with more children) and we don't have any idea how many illegal aliens are in this country after buying excellent I.D. from a Federal Official someplace. 4 million Puerto Ricans. Cubans in refuge? It will be very high number, but we have some 18 million Hispanic Citizens who have managed to tell the American People to shove it in spite of enormous data that tells us Amnesty for the uneducated will cost a fortune the American Taxpayers don't have. And, look at the money going back to Mexico, and you have to assume the numbers the Immigration Service are using are incredibly wrong, but with the permission of the Government.
I wonder CBS... if we wanted to stop Congress, could we?
How can you ILLEGALLY enter this Country and be rewarded with the precious gift of U.S. citizenship for a crime that the ILLEGAL ALIEN has committed by ILLEGALLY trespassing onto this Country. It makes no sense to me.
Talk about needing comprehensive reform, how about putting an end to this BS! Why should Americans pay for all this criminal activity? Just who do these ILLEGAL ALIENS think they are? Yes, who?
I for one, am sick and tired of these ILLEGAL ALIENS snubbing their nose at our immigration laws and the many other laws of this Country. If our Federal Government can not ENFORCE our immigration laws, and get these ILLEGAL ALIENS out of this Country, then let the States do it! One way or another, an end has to come to this illegal immigration, and not with AMNESTY! Amnesty will only encourage more ILLEGAL ALIENS to invade our Country and reward those who broke our laws and raped the American taxpayer in many ways...depressing our wages, taking our jobs, overwhelming our schools with their ILLEGAL ALIEN children, driving without a license or car insurance, all the crime from stolen identities to rape, drugs and everything else.
It's time for ZERO TOLERENCE with these ILLEGAL ALIENS. It's time for them get out of this Country and back in their own Country where they belong. When we get rid of the ILLEGAL ALIENS, we will get rid of all the problems that go with them.
My background: U.S. citizen, flair for languages. I have visited and lived in Mexico. I was also injured in Mexico. I also worked for San Diego Unified School District and for Health and Human Services as a Spanish speaking Medi-Cal eligibility technician. So I KNOW what I am talking about.
If you go to Mexico, bring plenty of pesos. Although hospitals in resort towns like Cabo San Lucas accept credit cards, the one in Ciudad Constitucion did not. I received good care, pretty cheap, paid in pesos. I had quite a struggle to get the pharmacy across the street to use U.S. dollars for the antibiotic I needed.
Fortunately my injury was from a fall. Had it been from a car accident or altercation, I would have been hauled off to jail and not given treatment until I provided proof of ability to pay all potential accident or bail and fine costs (substantial). Many SoCal'ers have died in Mexican jails after accidents. I don't drive there.
Mexicans living in Mexico are, for the most part, kind, helpful and generous. One person panga'd me off the island. Another drove my bloodied body first to a local clinic, then 50+ miles to a hospital in a neighboring city. She stayed with me throughout the entire process. She was a nurse, her husband a taxi driver. I insisted on giving her $60 for the trip, which she tried to decline. This, and my other occasions have convinced me that most Mexicans in Mexico are decent people.
But what happens to them once they cross the border? Or is it that the class of people willing to cross the border illegally and commit identity fraud to work or collect aid are Mexico's undesirables?
I have never had any problem with any of the legal aliens who came here the right way: fill out the forms, and wait. They have been excellent coworkers and neighbors.
But I have had LOTS OF PROBLEMS with the illegal aliens and former illegal amnesty aliens who are now "legal".
Illegal aliens are in general undesirable immigrants. There are many reasons for this. If you are willing to break the rules once, you'll break them again and again.
Amongst my totally legal (and very few) clients: never caught any welfare fraud. None had been to prison. Most were elderly or disabled and this was the first time they were receiving aid.
Amongst my illegal alien clients..crimes included 1) cross and stay illegally 2) identity theft 3) welfare fraud 4) driving without insurance, driving drunk, driving with too many people in vehicle and kids not in carseats 5) gang activity 6) spousal and child abuse 7) child molestation, having sex with 13 year olds 8) graffitti 9) theft and robbery and I forget the rest. This is NOT an occasional list for a few public assistance/Medi-Cal recipients. More than half of my clients have committed 3 or more of these items multiple times.
They are a major drag on our educational system and cut the time that teachers have for citizen children in half. This is because their parents refuse to learn or speak English, are not involved in their child's education. Plus so many of the kids are in gangs that it is dangerous for our kids to attend school.
They are a major drag on our hospitals, whether or not they have Medi-Cal. They come to the ER for every sniffle and sneeze and bellyache. Many ERs and hospitals have been bankrupted by illegal aliens in SoCAl. If you live in an area with high % of illegals, you will wait 6 -8 hours in the ER, even for major broken bones. In American neighborhoods you will be seen in 1 -2 hours.
Back to Medi-Cal. Most of my clients were Spanish speaking, even if they have lived here for 30+ years and were amnestied in 1986. They are too lazy or conceited to learn English. Many have a superiority complex, they think their culture is superior to ours and refuse to assimilate. They refuse to give up customs like 30 year old men having 13 year old girlfriends. Or the macho male how-many-girls-can-I-get-pregant attitude.
The only difference between the amnesty aliens and the illegal aliens is that the amnestied ones receive more cash aid, more food stamps, full scope Medi-Cal and SSI. They seldom do anything to improve themselves, like learn English, go to school and get an education or learn a trade. After 20 -30 years half of them are still working under the counter and NOT PAYING TAXES. Most of the other half are still working low end jobs and are dependent upon assistance.
How can you ILLEGALLY enter this Country and be rewarded with the precious gift of U.S. citizenship for a crime that the ILLEGAL ALIEN has committed by ILLEGALLY trespassing onto this Country. It makes no sense to me.
Talk about needing comprehensive reform, how about putting an end to this BS! Why should Americans pay for all this criminal activity? Just who do these ILLEGAL ALIENS think they are? Yes, who?
I for one, am sick and tired of these ILLEGAL ALIENS snubbing their nose at our immigration laws and the many other laws of this Country. If our Federal Government can not ENFORCE our immigration laws, and get these ILLEGAL ALIENS out of this Country, then let the States do it! One way or another, an end has to come to this illegal immigration, and not with AMNESTY! Amnesty will only encourage more ILLEGAL ALIENS to invade our Country and reward those who broke our laws and raped the American taxpayer in many ways...depressing our wages, taking our jobs, overwhelming our schools with their ILLEGAL ALIEN children, driving without a license or car insurance, all the crime from stolen identities to rape, drugs and everything else.
It's time for ZERO TOLERENCE with these ILLEGAL ALIENS. It's time for them get out of this Country and back in their own Country where they belong. When we get rid of the ILLEGAL ALIENS, we will get rid of all the problems that go with them.
ENFORCE THE LAW! NO AMNESTY!
Thank God that they pushed against Aristrocracy.
Right of citizenry through their soil birth place was the answer.
So that no one could create a priveledged class of citizen.
Though mocked and ridiculed but to date it is the law.
So once again begone with your flaws and embrace the nature of love.
FOR NO ONE HAS THE MAJESTY
OF LOVE
WHICH COULD ONLY LEAD TO LIBERTY
LIFE AND THE PURSUIT OF VICTORY.
By year end, our country will have a 12 trillion dollar deficit and with the liberal governance our county is heading in the direction that california is currently in. California can not pay essential bills and are issuing IOU's.
Our country's resources are strapped and we are having dificulty providing for our own poor which should get preference over illegal immigrants.
Under both Bush and Obama, our federal government has been fiscally irresponsible and will continue until drastic change is demanded by the people of our country. If we continue to spend more money than we take in we are headed for a recession and ultimately a depression that will be much more significant than our present situation.
Illegal immigrants are taking our jobs at a time where our unemployment rate is 9.5% and will top 10% within the next year.
Illegal immigrants do not contribute to our society and yet utilize a high level of social services.
With our country incurring a $1.84 Trillion deficit this year we can not afford to supply healthcare to everyone that finds their way hear illegally. There is a process for legal immigration and those that take that path have typically become productive citizens.
It will be a BIG problem if it goes to LEGAL CITIZENS from some new amnesty bill!
how are these "illegal aliens" getting all kinds of free things such as healthcare blah blah blah when YOU NEED AN ID/SSN FOR THIS.
and HELLO, obviously they DO NOT have an ID so you guys can all shut up about this. You need a SOCIAL SECURITY number for pretty much everything to get anything to buy anything, you need one FOR EVERYTHING and if you use fake crap or use some one elses they will just get caught. Get real and think about all the facts, they don't get ****.
The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act requires all emergency departments to treat all persons coming in seeking medical care, regardless of residency status or ability to pay. Hospitals cannot legally ask residency status of patients, which thwarts attempts to determine accurately the scope of the situation.
The issue becomes simple: will the illegal aliens pay for the crime of illegal entry, or will the American Taxpayer be forced to pay for the crime of illegal entry?
If those kids come to school with a certificate that indicated they had the shots, there would be no problem at all. Those shots, by the way, can be had at the Texas Public Health Office, and that vaccine can be administered by the School Nurse.
President Obama is suggesting the Children are quasi legal. The 14th Amendment tells us they are NOT legal. By his oath of office, President Obama should be very busy telling Napolitano to stuff it... deport the illegal aliens. The Democrats in Congress should be doing that also. Where does the not honoring the oath of office stop?
Deport the illegal aliens as the majority of the people of the United States wants. Give us a chance to vote on it. One thing most certainly: don't let Senator Schumer of New York decide what will be done.
The Congressman said that this was not possible, unless it was an isolated case of Medicare fraud. In the Congressman?s defense, the fact is that the law says that you have to be a citizen (or a legal permanent resident for 5 years) to be eligible to legally receive Medicare. But the law doesn?t say you have to prove it. The result of not enforcing a law is pretty much the same as no law. It?s not rocket science.
So I did some surfing and found out that this old guy was right. And this is a well-kept secret, because you won?t find this as a talking point on any websites, or at least I didn?t. But here's the proof. It?s a link to the page on the AMA website telling the doctors and hospitals how to get paid for treating illegals. http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/legal-topics/medical-staff-topics/funding-undocumented-aliens.shtml.
The AMA site says that doctors and hospitals no longer need to inquire into a patient?s citizenship status in order to get paid. The AMA says that all claims for reimbursement on illegals are processed by TrailBlazer Health Enterprises, LLC on this link https://www.trailblazerhealth.com/Section_1011/Default.aspx?UrlRID=708. So ?Trailblazer? has been set up as the conduit to hide these reimbursements with an end run around the Traditional Medicare system. Section 1011 of the ?Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement and Modernization Act of 2003? is titled ?Federal Reimbursement of Emergency Health Services Furnished to Undocumented Aliens.? Section 1011 was funded to provide reimbursements of $250 million a year for fiscal years 2005-2008 for payments to eligible providers. If you go to this link
https://www.cfda.gov/index?s=program&mode=form&tab=step1&id=eaa295c59359e90f3cd3e095f8e7b09a&cck=1&au=&ck=, you?ll see that in 2008, Section 1011 has disbursed $596,200,567 to 2,165 hospitals, 50,116 physicians, and 504 ambulance providers.
I know a lot of people who are undocumented and don?t have health insurance. I often ask them about their health care situation. I could write about dozens of stories here, but suffice it to say that they are all receiving outstanding health care, and are very happy with the current system. In fact, I have yet to meet even one undocumented immigrant who has had any health issues related to his lack of health insurance. I bet you have never met one either. And in Southeast Texas, the hospitals seem eager to welcome them back. I never understood that before. But now it all makes sense. The illegals get health care and Medicare pays the hospitals for it.
But this was only the preface to the old guy?s question. What he wanted to ask about was if the Congressman was aware of recent efforts by the Democrats to temporarily have Medicare stop paying the Hospitals for caring for the illegals. Yes that?s right, Democrats want to temporarily stop spending for something. Sounds like a good idea. But it?s a trick.
As more and more people are questioning if there really are many people having trouble receiving health care, there is apparently an ongoing effort led by Rahm Emanuel to create a crises quickly where none exists. (?You never want a serious crisis to go to waste"? Rahm Emanuel in Novemeber 2008 at a Wall Street Journal conference.) And if we don?t know the background, this trick will work. And the manufactured crises will turn public opinion their way.
Federal law says that you have to be a citizen at least 18 years old in order to vote. But again, the law doesn?t specifiy any means of having to prove it. So it's left up to the states to enforce this law. Here again, the result of not enforcing a law is pretty much the same as no law. Democratic leadership wants to give out as many entitlements to as many people as possible. Why? They say it?s because of their compassion. Not so much. It?s to increase their voter base. They are vote farmers planting their crops. When attempts have been made to enforce proof of citizenship during elections, the Democrats have said that it would be too much of a hardship on people like Grandma and Grandpa to have to prove their citizenship. The Democrats have estimated the cost to individuals to have to produce proper ID at the voting booth at $20 per person. They say this is not fair. But as much as they like to spend, they didn?t consider having the Federal Government pick up the $20 tab. So enforcement is left up to state and local jurisdictions. Interestingly though, many of these same Democratic Congressmen an Senators didn't care about Grandma and Grandpa much when they started requiring Photo IDs at their Town Hall meetings last month!
If twelve year olds could vote, the Democrats would be pushing a bill to give away free Nintendos and Jonas Brothers Tickets. Again... not rocket science. It's a chicken-and-the-egg thing. Take away the illegals' ability to vote, and the Democrats will have no reason to give them entitlements. The same compassionate Democrats who didn't care about Grandma's $20 would drop the illegals like a rock. With no entitlements, they will self-deport.
This will not be easy. The Liberals know that maintaining the illegal?s vote is the key to their power. They deny that it exists. But they know that without it, they would never have won in 2008. They will fight this with everything that they have. If you think that this is so simple that the Liberals couldn?t possibly stop the states from enforcing the law that they refuse to enforce, think again. Last fall, then Senator Obama?s presidential campaign asked the Justice Department to decide whether a state which implemented changes to its voting laws had to be approved by the Federal DOJ. A ruling was issued that said that the Feds had the right to review and approve any changes made by a state that wanted to implement voter citizenship verification. Now that Obama won and the Liberals won both houses, they will try to use this to stop any voter citizenship verification from taking place.
In May of 2009, Georgia became the second state (behind Arizona) to pass a law requiring that all residents prove their citizenship before they can register to vote. I can?t believe I just said that. It?s unbelievable that these laws don?t already exist, but remember that the Federal law that says you have to be a citizen to vote says nothing about having to prove it. That?s left up to the states. If you think that the Feds can?t do anything quickly, think again. One month after Georgia signed this into law, the Federal Justice Department issued a ruling that barred the state of Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification. The DOJ said that Georgia?s system ?does not produce accurate and reliable information?. Loretta King, the acting assistant attorney general for the Justice Department?s Civil Rights Division, said in a letter to the state that the citizenship verification was a ?substantial burden? for ?minority voters?. That card will be played in every hand that?s dealt.
Some proof of citizenship requirements for voter registration bills have surfaced recently in several other states (Colorado, Illinois, Tennessee, Washington, Virginia, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Nevada, Oregon, Texas, Utah). So far, the Liberals have been able to obstruct these efforts. The Liberals have often argued that any cost or inconvenience to a voter was tantamount to a poll tax, and therefore illegal. So they do enforce some laws. Our only hope to reclaiming this country is for each state to quickly invoke it?s own voter citizenship verification law where all costs and all inconvenience is picked up by the state. The accuracy and reliability of the system has to be impecable and beyond reproach so that the Liberals will have no legal basis to shoot it down. If twelve year olds could vote, the Liberals would come up with a height discrimination argument to stop all bartenders from asking for proof of age. They defy belief. But they are as real as a heart attack.
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