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August 22, 2009
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Saturday reading: Illegal immigrants

Obama uses his radio address to debunk the claim that health care would cover illegal immigrants. And others.

Jonathan Martin captures the real sense of unease and anger in a Florida district, where illegal immigrant health care is an oddly recurrent topic.

 

A former Armey aide is indicted.

Jeff Stein mocks Ridge.

And a prominent New York Democrat suggests Paterson's blindness has harmed his ability to govern.


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Joe Biden is a dope!

Posted By: Biden the dummy | August 22, 2009 at 05:05 PM     

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I don't believe you... ps: NO to the public option. We need to get spending & deficits under control before this country is toast.

Posted By: Obummer... | August 22, 2009 at 05:09 PM     

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Americano, si, Mexicano, no? Yeah, right, and you had the fools voting for you believing that your bail-out package was going to work too. ZERO CREDIBILITY...PERIOD. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me a dozen times, shame on me.

Posted By: Seatalker | August 22, 2009 at 05:27 PM     

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Lying sack.

Posted By: | August 22, 2009 at 05:32 PM     

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Votes cast for the 40 Republican senators: 44.2 million

Votes cast for the 60 Democratic senators: 82.3 million

Posted By: | August 22, 2009 at 05:33 PM     

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4 BILLION OF STIMULUS MONEY FOR ACORN SURE WILL BUY ALOT OF VOTES.

Posted By: | August 22, 2009 at 05:39 PM     

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illegal health care run by immigrants!! Nooooooooooooooo!!!!! MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTT!!!!!!!

Posted By: Dummies for Deportation | August 22, 2009 at 05:49 PM     

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Well then, who's going to pay for the illegals health care? A perfect plan to shift all of the costs to the hospital,creating even more financial stress on the hospitals.

Posted By: MArk G. | August 22, 2009 at 05:52 PM     

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No coverage for 30 million Illegal Aliens and their Bingo Babies? This guy can't stop lying! What's wrong with him? Why should I sacrifice anything to help cover Illegal Aliens? Coverage for Illegals is in there! We've been reading the bill on The Kevin James Show here in Los Angeles.

Posted By: Dems for Deportation | August 22, 2009 at 06:33 PM     

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Here's a public option for the Liar-in-Chief that is lately being bandied about in hushed tones that will grow in volume with time: IMPEACHMENT!!!

Posted By: Cuban Refugee | August 22, 2009 at 06:36 PM     

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I don't know how healthcare can be fixed. But, it will be interesting 10 years from now when the cost of insuring a family is 20K, and employers drop coverages. Then all the people screaming socialism, will start whining and protesting when the money comes out of their pocket and will demand that someone else (rich?) pay for them or do something. This crisis is inevitable, some type of solution/fix has to be figured out.

Posted By: Biff | August 22, 2009 at 06:57 PM     

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Healthcare could be partially helped by getting rid of fraud and not using obesity as an illness allowing Social Security payments. The system has become so unmanageable that most fraud is not detected. Getting rid of some of the leeching congress people might help too.

Posted By: bluegown | August 22, 2009 at 07:22 PM     

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Sooooo....funding for abortion and health coverage will go the way of earmarks? Do we have your "cross your heart and hope to die" word on that, Mr. Prez? No finnsies allowed. The next truth from your mouth will be your first.

Posted By: Trajan | August 22, 2009 at 07:49 PM     

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Sooooo....funding for abortion and health coverage will go the way of earmarks? Do we have your "cross your heart and hope to die" word on that, Mr. Prez? No finnsies allowed. The next truth from your mouth will be your first.

Posted By: Trajan | August 22, 2009 at 07:50 PM     

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If the republicans continue, and follow their berserkity to it's foregone conclusion, and drive themselves totally over the edge of insanity here on earth, and then actually nominate Palin or the Huckster or one of their ilk as the GOP nominee for 2012...well, it'll be comparable to the Titanic passengers electing a new captain just as the Band's last chorus of 'Nearer My God To Thee' is drowned (no pun intended) out by the cacophony of the screams of the doomed and damned, and the bursting of monstrous bubbles.

Posted By: Tom Doff | August 22, 2009 at 08:01 PM     

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Or we could make it legal to run Phillip Morris and Marlboro commercials en Espanol only.

Posted By: Tom Doff | August 22, 2009 at 08:06 PM     

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Horace Cooper, former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey's aide, was indicted for taking thousands of dollars worth of gifts from jailed lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

Posted By: | August 22, 2009 at 08:10 PM     

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Using a comical Speedy Gonzales as a turtle dressed in cowboy gear riding a horse and blowing smoke up it's a** in Cattle-Rustlin' country.

Posted By: Tom Doff | August 22, 2009 at 08:11 PM     

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Health Care for illegals absolutely almost a done deal. After Obama passes health care he is going to tackle immigration. Solution amnesty and citizenship. See no illegals will get health care.....wake up it's easy if you think about it

Posted By: norryrr | August 22, 2009 at 08:13 PM     

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That's cruel (and pretty stupid) to suggest that blindness would hamper Patterson's ability to govern. A strong argument could be made that not being able to see the s**t-hole New York has become would be beneficial, especially in keeping a positive attitude. Along that line, cutting off his nose would give him a helluvan advantage over those who have to smell the place.

Posted By: Tom Doff | August 22, 2009 at 08:15 PM     

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I ran a search on 'Jeff Stein', hopefully to learn how one mocks a mockery, and all that came back was 'Homo Incognito'. Is there a 'Jeff Stein'?

Posted By: Tom Doff | August 22, 2009 at 08:19 PM     

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And is he an 'Unknown Homo'?

Posted By: Tom Doff | August 22, 2009 at 08:21 PM     

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Ohhh nooo... ohh no... illegals illegals illegals... so scared, so very very friiiiiiiightened... gonna -mmpphh- suck my thumb a little bit...so comforting...mmmpphh... curl up with my blankie too... mmmphh mmmmphhh huuuhhhh...

Posted By: Dems for Deportation | August 22, 2009 at 09:21 PM     

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Careful! Careful! We're facing a slippery slope here with this new-fangled Health Care bill. I'll betcha if they sneak in a public option plan, or a single payer system, the next thing you know, 'they' will de-privatize the White House and Congress, and make them get along on Government Money ONLY!!!

Posted By: Tom Doff | August 22, 2009 at 09:30 PM     

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We oughta stop all this 'Illegal Immigrant', and 'Undocumented Visitor', and 'Temporary Worker' crap, and just call the illegal aliens 'Criminal Border Sneakers. I'll bet if we did that, we could get NIKE to put up the dough to build an alligator moat along the whole Mehicano border. With a minimum width of, oh, about 40 feet. And then have an annual 'Moat Broad Jump' contest, with citizenship the prize for any who make it.

Posted By: Tom Doff | August 22, 2009 at 09:36 PM     

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What I don't understand, is why Obama doesn't use the precedent of the previous administration, and attach a 'Signing Statement' to the Bo Obama Bill making Bo the 'Official White House Greeter', that's whipping it's way through Congress, and have the Signing Statement authorize any damned-fool new Health Care Program he can dream up?

Posted By: Tom Doff | August 22, 2009 at 09:45 PM     

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Your all a bunch of damn illegal aliens. All the lying, two-faced, genocidal white-eyes need to go back to where you came from.

Posted By: Cherokees for Deportation | August 22, 2009 at 10:58 PM     

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Prominent? It is notable that one of Paterson's former Senate colleagues is criticizing him for attribution -- but to call Diane Savino a "prominent" Democrat is stretching it. If you did a quick survey of people walking around in her district, I'd be surprised if even half of them knew who she is or what she does, much less people in the rest of the city or state. She's not prominent, she's barely known.

Posted By: | August 22, 2009 at 11:41 PM     

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Maine's Small Businesses Tell Sen. Snowe They Oppose Mandates Without a Public Option

"Small business representatives told Snowe that they were opposed to any mandates that came without a public option and that such an alternative was desperately needed for small business, which can't afford the rising cost of health insurance for their employees. The costs make them unable to compete on a level playing field with bigger companies, which can use their size to leverage lower prices. Lobbyists representing larger corporations took the opposite position."

Posted By: | August 22, 2009 at 11:50 PM     

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The GOP would support the buggering of all of us if it was good for the business of corporations making and selling Vaseline. ...just an observation in regards to the behavior and tactics of the GOP in the health care debate.

Posted By: GOP and the Vaseline lobby | August 23, 2009 at 01:04 AM     

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I am REALLY behind you and STILL IN you,,ALL my fellow receptive GOPs so TAKE a WIDE STANCE NOW for wholesome GOP FAMILY VALUES.BEND OVER for GOP CAUSE,NOW

Posted By: LARRY CRAIG | August 23, 2009 at 01:13 AM     

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I am REALLY behind you and STILL IN you,,ALL my fellow receptive GOPs so TAKE a WIDE STANCE NOW for wholesome GOP FAMILY VALUES.BEND OVER for GOP CAUSE,NOW

Posted By: LARRY CRAIG | August 23, 2009 at 01:13 AM     

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LOL, any surprise that one of Dick Armey's aides has been idicted? criminals and defrauders stick together, learn evil ways from the 'boss' and betray the over generous American system that attracts crime. Dick Armey is a bad hat himself, so don't expect his aides to understand how not to act/behave ethically or morally. These Right wing Conservatives promote corruption to this country.

Posted By: JanJan08 | August 23, 2009 at 04:09 AM     

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Obama, I don't think you know what the word "honest" means. You are biggest liar and the worst prez ever! Impeach Obama now before he ruins America!!!!!

Posted By: ski | August 23, 2009 at 05:24 AM     

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Obama, I don't think you know what the word "honest" means. You are biggest liar and the worst prez ever! Impeach Obama now before he ruins America!!!!!

Posted By: ski | August 23, 2009 at 05:35 AM     

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Obama Explains How His Health Care Plan Will 'Eliminate' Private Insurance.? Do not trust this guy! Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25779.html##ixzz0Ozt1tPwW

Posted By: | August 23, 2009 at 05:38 AM     

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Obama should report himself to flag@whitehouse.gov. Oops..wait, they took that one down. He needs to go get a 'reality check'. ... Obama is a lying, empty suited, clueless, clown fool, community organizer, Saul Alinsky following Marxist, who lies through his pearly white teeth. Like the inept and incompetent governors Paterson and Patrick, he is an flaming example of the failure of affirmative action. Impeach these three incompetent fool amigos before they do any more damage. They are a danger to the welfare of this nation. ....speaking of nations, DailyKos and Huff'n Puff nations needs to apologize to the American people for installing this incompetent clown to the oval office....

Posted By: where's vlad | August 23, 2009 at 08:30 AM     

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If someone is born outside of the 50 (not57) states and one of the parents is not a US citizen, can that person legally become President? Impeach Obama and investigate Michelle for her alleged no show Chicago style Hospital scam job. 2010-Real Change for Real Americans!

Posted By: Friend of Tony R | August 23, 2009 at 09:51 AM     

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it's a beautiful sunday am in the southland. sorry mr. prez. you are lying. simple as that. there's no language mandating coverage of illegal aliens but there is also no requirement to prove citizenship. that means coverage for millions of illegal aliens. and... since you have expressed your intent to convert illegal aliens into citizens... well there you have it. that's why the 10-12 million illegal aliens are always counted in the number of "american's" without healthcare. you may be a constitutional scholar and all that but we're not quite as idiotic as you seem to think. the president is lying.

Posted By: troe | August 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM     

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As long as Obama refuses to check a person citizenship, then anyone illegal or otherwise will be convered under Obama Care. Of that 47 uninsured, 30 Million are Illegal immigrants, Non immigrant visa holders and legal non residents.

Posted By: | August 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM     

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As long as Obama refuses to check a person citizenship, then anyone illegal or otherwise will be convered under Obama Care. Of that 47 uninsured, 30 Million are Illegal immigrants, Non immigrant visa holders and legal non residents.

Posted By: | August 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM     

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As long as Obama refuses to check a person citizenship, then anyone illegal or otherwise will be convered under Obama Care. Of that 47 uninsured, 30 Million are Illegal immigrants, Non immigrant visa holders and legal non residents.

Posted By: | August 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM     

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A former Armey aide is indicted.- liberal Ben Smith"........BEN ...BFD We The People would like to hear more about John$400 thou, is that possible? LOL!

Posted By: Liberal press | August 23, 2009 at 10:41 AM     

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Here is a question that Obama and Democrats refuse to answer.

If Obamacare will not cover illegal immigrants healthcare as Obama says AND a 1986 law requires hosptials to treat illegal immigrants.... Then who is going to pay the hospitals for the healthcare?

Hospitals nationwide can't absorb the cost of 47 million illegals because liberals refuse to deport them, so many hospitals in border states have closed.

Posted By: | August 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM     

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It's amazing how Reptards are so concerned about a cell, in a woman's body, but have no problem with condemning thousands to death for the lack of medical treatment. Not only are Reptards hypocrites... they are also murders.

Posted By: Julius Sulla | August 23, 2009 at 11:20 AM     

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It's amazing how ignorant Far-Leftist Radicals are willing to allow Racist Illegal Aliens and their Bingo Babies to remain here in America and do nothing but LOWER our standard of living and want US to pay for it to boot...

Posted By: Dems for Deportation | August 23, 2009 at 11:56 AM     

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The following video pretty much sums up the Illegal Alien disaster in SOCAL and nationwide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sICiJsa2LlA

Posted By: Dems for Deportation | August 23, 2009 at 12:09 PM     

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One more about E-Verify and Sanctuary City policies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VPiCKVfZLQ&feature=related

Posted By: Dems for Deportation | August 23, 2009 at 12:27 PM     

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Julius Sulla should put down the crack pipe long enough to sober up and realize most Republicans are more concerened about our country imploding-not abortion rights. While tax funded abortion is deplorable, so is the careless behavior which fuels the demand for abortions of convenience. Will Obama care put the right to abortion as a health care priority or, will it be rationed with the delay causing horrific late term abortions? Then again if abortions were easy in the early sixties, maybe Obama's mommy could have had one after her shack up with Daddy Obama. Treating every ilegal alien (including Sock Puppet Obama's auntie in Boston)will deny health care to legitmate citizens and residents. 2010-TAKE BACK OUR AMERICA!

Posted By: blake erie | August 23, 2009 at 12:37 PM     

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Obama is a liar. He cannot be trusted. The truth is that he refuses to specifically exclude illegals from inclusion in the healthcare plan --- read between the lines.

Posted By: | August 23, 2009 at 01:01 PM     

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Hey Ben, Is anything going on with Axelrod ? No? Wake up and smell the coffee.

Posted By: socal4patrick | August 23, 2009 at 01:48 PM     

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Say GOOD-BYE to the Hispanic VOTE! GOP!!

Posted By: | August 23, 2009 at 01:52 PM     

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The "hipsnic" vote is irrelevant! We Independents will continue to decide the outcomes of elections just like we've always done in the past. Pochos like me want to see the Illegal Aliens and their Anchor Babies deported....pronto!!

Posted By: Dems for Deportation | August 23, 2009 at 02:00 PM     

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Lived in a boarder state for years and seen the emergency rooms clogged with illegals, so we are already paying for their health care and it's already costing our economy billions upon billions a year. Our leaders need to quit lying to us and level with us once and for all and address the issue of illegal immigration, the benefits as well as the true cost to our country with having millions of undocumented people in this country. How much is it costing our schools, our prision system, our medical establishment, law enforcement, insurance industry, our welfare roles, and young americans that can't find work because illegals have so many of the jobs that typicaly went to young americans, and don't tell me Iam full of it, Iv'e seen it play out year after year in Az., Texas, california, and new mexico.

Posted By: jim | August 23, 2009 at 02:32 PM     

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If you're NOT counting 'illegals', where do you get the '50' million uninsured? Must be 'quantum physics'! Now you see it.......Now you don't! WHOOOOOOOOOOOHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted By: jeffmojo | August 23, 2009 at 02:38 PM     

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Very very easy way to end illegal immigration. Very easy and 100% effective. Executives of companies caught hiring illegals will be charged $100,000 for each illegal they imployed. Why you take that idea to your GOP reps and see how well your business friendly GOP twits respond. Yeah...illegals are always the evil of the left, no? Well, who is employing these people? Business. Shut the jobs down and there will be no reason they will come. But yeah...it ain't gonna happen. Cheap labor trumps national loyalty every time when you are dealing with business.

Posted By: illegals | August 23, 2009 at 03:07 PM     

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Youse don't unnerstanjd! I aready told Rahm dat all dey gfotta do is get Acron to reister all dem hispanics on da west dside. Den we can go to Burris and cook up some papers! Prolem solved and da west side looks great for da census. Plus, we need all dem Mexicans to clean up da city for da Olympics! Maybe Barry can pardon Tony sos he can be like the elCzaro de *******s or sumtin just to keep em line and voting proper like. That ought keep him from rattin and it's cleaner dan whacking him and dumpin him in Bubbly Creek! I mean like everyone wins! It's just like when we got that no show gig for Michelle at the hospital company! Talk about a great gig! That kept her big mouth shut so she wouldn't run against Jesse Jr!

Posted By: W. Daley, da Cheif for Life! | August 23, 2009 at 03:39 PM     

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Youse don't unnerstanjd! I aready told Rahm dat all dey gfotta do is get Acron to reister all dem hispanics on da west dside. Den we can go to Burris and cook up some papers! Prolem solved and da west side looks great for da census. Plus, we need all dem Mexicans to clean up da city for da Olympics! Maybe Barry can pardon Tony sos he can be like the elCzaro de *******s or sumtin just to keep em line and voting proper like. That ought keep him from rattin and it's cleaner dan whacking him and dumpin him in Bubbly Creek! I mean like everyone wins! It's just like when we got that no show gig for Michelle at the hospital company! Talk about a great gig! That kept her big mouth shut so she wouldn't run against Jesse Jr!

Posted By: W. Daley, da Cheif for Life! | August 23, 2009 at 03:41 PM     

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PRESIDENT'S POLL NUMBERS HIT NEW LOW TODAY! Rasmussen Reports - Sunday August 23, 2009 The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 27% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14. These figures mark the lowest Approval Index rating yet recorded for this President. The previous low of -12 was reached on July 30 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The people of this country are trying to tell you something, Mr. President! They are saying loud and clear: NO GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM!!

Posted By: sunnyr | August 23, 2009 at 05:52 PM     

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FOR the RECORD ,,I AM STILL NOT GAY

Posted By: LARRY CRAIG | August 24, 2009 at 05:54 AM     

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Mr. Obama you are a miserable failure and have easily replaced Jimmy Carter as the WORST President EVER in 7 short months.

Posted By: | August 24, 2009 at 08:05 AM     

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http://pewhispanic.org/states/?stateid=TX HISPANIC POPULATION IN TEXAS ............ MEDIAN AGE: HISPANIC 27; NON-HISPANIC WHITES 40 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/the_future_of_american_power.html THE FUTURE OF AMERICAN POWER by Fareed Zakaria "The United States has one crucial advantage over Europe and most of the developed world. . . Nicholas Eberstadt, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, estimates that the U.S. population will increase by 65 million by 2030, whereas Europe's population will remain "virtually stagnant." Europe, Eberstadt notes, "will by that time have more than twice as many seniors older than 65 than children under 15, with drastic implications for future aging. (Fewer children now means fewer workers later.) . . . The only real way to avert this demographic decline is for Europe to take in more immigrants. . . The effects of an aging population are considerable. First, there is the pension burden -- fewer workers supporting more gray-haired elders."

Posted By: Ralph | August 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM     

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http://pewhispanic.org/states/?stateid=FL . . . . . HISPANIC POPULATION IN FLORIDA ............ MEDIAN AGE: HISPANIC 33; NON-HISPANIC WHITES 45 ...................... http://www.newsweek.com/id/56970 ............. THE DECLINE AND FALL OF EUROPE; THE RISE OF THE REST by Fareed Zakaria "In 25 years, the number of working-age Europeans will decline by 7 percent, while those over 65 will increase by 50 percent."

Posted By: Ralph | August 24, 2009 at 01:00 PM     

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